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In a departure from my usual coverage of British murder cases, I bring you an off-season collaboration episode that delves into a mysterious and highly debated case from the Republic of Panama, Central America.
Mark and Bethan join me from the excellent Seeing Red true crime podcast, with Mark telling us the story of Dutch students Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, who disappeared on April 1, 2014, whilst hiking the El Pianista Trail in the country's mountain town of Boquete.
Two months later, the remains of whom most people accept belonged to the two women were found, including a pelvic bone and a foot still inside a boot. Lisanne's appeared to have decomposed naturally, but strangely, Kris' bones were stark white, as if they had been bleached.
Their causes of death have never been determined. A backpack recovered by a local contained a camera with 90 photos taken on April 8 between 1 am and 4 am. Most of the images are of near-complete darkness. However, some slightly clearer ones, including one showing the back of what's believed to be Kris's head, have led to debates over who took them and what happened to the two women.
I recently appeared on an episode of Seeing Red when I told Mark and Bethan the tragic story of the murder of Orianna Crilly-Cifrova. You can listen to it here:
S10 Ep10: The Murder of 13-month-old Orianna Crilly-Cifrova
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Intro music:
David John Brady - 'Throw Down the Gauntlet'
True Crime Podcasters
With a back catalogue bursting at the seams, this pair of true crime fanatics have covered everything from murder and mayhem in the quintessentially English village Maids Moreton to the devastating fire at the Stardust nightclub in Dublin, which claimed 48 lives in 1981.
When they first met as colleagues in 2013, it didn’t take long for Mark and Bethan to discover they shared a passion for all things true crime. They would regularly spend their lunch breaks discussing topical true crime stories and sharing their thoughts and theories, often so deep in conversation that they would forget to eat lunch!
After a successful campaign of persuasion, Mark convinced Bethan they should start a true crime podcast in 2018 and Seeing Red was born, its name founded in the angry mist which descends on all of us from time to time, although usually with far less brutal consequences than the subjects featured on the podcast.
From its humble origins, the show has become an international hit with over six million downloads and a growing army of listeners from the US to Iraq to the UK. The pair are loved by their listeners for their unique style and natural banter and how they balance their humour with always remembering the victims first and foremost.
